Crime, Laws, Guns
I somehow managed to get a sharp interest in guns all of a sudden. I still probably couldn't tell an AK-47 from an AK-74, but that's not the point.
Doing a search for what guns are legal to own in the USA on google brought up some halarious results from people that are staunchly against guns.
http://www.millionmommarch.org/
The site is so chock-full of BS propaganda that I read it three times just to laugh at it. I thought it was fake the first time I read it because it was so stupid, but rereading it, I don't doubt its reality.
They show a Barrets .50 cal sniper rifle with big red lettering saying "This weapon can take down an airplane," then go on to say "The .50 Caliber Sniper Rifle Belongs on the Battlefield, Not on Our Streets" and "Last week, Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) introduced a bill (S.935) that would make our streets and our skies safer."
I'd like to see one instance of someone using a large-caliber sniper rifle to bring down a plane outside of a warzone in the first place.
I'd suspect someone can use a smaller caliber weapon to bring down a plane as well, if properly aimed (in most planes, the wings are the gas tanks).
I'd like to see some sort of motivation for someone to use such a weapon to bring down a plane.
I'd like to see 10 instances of such a weapon being used "on Our Streets."
I'd die to hear how this makes our skies safer in reality.
Just beneath that, it shows an FN Five-Seven. Nowhere on that page is it called that. It's referred to as "Cop-killer gun" because it's capable of firing armor-piercing rounds. Including the page directed to by the "Learn more..." link (which leads to another website), it refers to the Five-Seven as "Cop-Killer Gun" 3 times, and calls it by the name Five-Seven one time. That one time just so happened to be quoting the title of another article.
Teh d00m and teh gl00m.
Yeah, guns can be used to kill people. So can fists. Let's ban fists.
Yeah, guns are involved in a good number of deaths each year. So are surgeons. Let's make laws against surgeons.
Yeah, guns are often used in violent crime. Guns are also often used to deter violent crime. If a criminal knows you have a gun, almost 100% of the time they're not interested in you. If a criminal knows you don't have a gun, you're #1 on the prospective victim list.
Yeah, a Five-Seven can penetrate body armor. Of course, it doesn't take armor-piercing bullets to kill someone wearing body armor. Why is the Five-Seven a Cop-Killer gun when a Glock or a Beretta is not? Both have been used to kill officers on-duty.
The website hypes ANYTHING gun-related or NRA-related negatively. They keep talking about "Reckless gun sellers" and guns that can "bring down airplanes" and "cop-killer guns" and the like.
Gun sellers can't be aware of what the intent of the buyer is. Anyone, therefore, that sells a gun that is later used to commit a crime could be classified as a reckless gun seller even if they were extremely careful in who they sold to. Not everyone that wants to commit a crime would have something on their record to indicate that.
Any gun can bring down an airplane if it hits hydraulics, fuel lines, fuel tanks, control lines, or a pilot. Planes are built extremely lightly, nothing that could really stop a bullet.
A .50 cal rifle can bring down a plane, yes. Easier than a pistol, but not so much easier that it's worth mentioning. To bring down a plane using small arms fire would be almost entirely luck irrelevant of what weapon was used.
The law is enforced by guns, broken by guns, and written by the consent of guns. People that would rather ban all guns are either idiots or were fed so much BS that they can taste what part of the pasture the bull was eating from.
Fact is, criminals that want guns will get them. Law-abiding citizens would be relatively defenseless against a gun-wielding attacker if the citizens were forbidden from owning a gun. The attacker knows that the victim has zero chance of having comparable firepower to their own, and the victim is forced to either submit or die. When a lot of criminals know this, crime skyrockets.
Look at Washington DC. Gun posession is illegal. Washington DC has the highest violent crime rate in America. Who can imagine why? It must be a haven for criminals. Anti-gun laws make the criminal work environment much safer. They must love it there. Nobody can resist them.
It plays out larger than this though. Such crimes, however heinous, pale in comparison to a government gone awry.
Suppose gun ownership was illegal. The only ones with guns would be the government and the criminals. The government could quickly do things that we don't want it to. The criminals could quickly do things we don't want them to. Society's values are quickly undermined and destroyed in that kind of situation. If everyone had a gun, the government would be overthrown immediately upon going directly against society, as would crime, which definitionally goes against society.
The right to bear arms is the right that assures that all other rights are protected. To remove the right to bear arms removes the ability for people to demand change against oppression, and thus makes it easy to remove all other rights. Where would America be now without guns? Oppressed under British rule with no representation, likely just another colony. When the goverment does a bad job leading, the people with guns can fight back, and revolutionize the government.
The gun represents violence to some, but freedom to me. Without guns, people fear criminals, the government, they have no way to protect themselves. In an armed society, criminals fear people, because people have guns. The government is ruled by the people, rather than the people ruled by the government. That is freedom from fear, the most important freedom, because when people don't fear, they have freedom of speech, they have freedom of expression, the freedom to pursue happiness, and reason to be careful not to step on anyone else's feet and impede their progress toward their own happiness.
Doing a search for what guns are legal to own in the USA on google brought up some halarious results from people that are staunchly against guns.
http://www.millionmommarch.org/
The site is so chock-full of BS propaganda that I read it three times just to laugh at it. I thought it was fake the first time I read it because it was so stupid, but rereading it, I don't doubt its reality.
They show a Barrets .50 cal sniper rifle with big red lettering saying "This weapon can take down an airplane," then go on to say "The .50 Caliber Sniper Rifle Belongs on the Battlefield, Not on Our Streets" and "Last week, Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) introduced a bill (S.935) that would make our streets and our skies safer."
I'd like to see one instance of someone using a large-caliber sniper rifle to bring down a plane outside of a warzone in the first place.
I'd suspect someone can use a smaller caliber weapon to bring down a plane as well, if properly aimed (in most planes, the wings are the gas tanks).
I'd like to see some sort of motivation for someone to use such a weapon to bring down a plane.
I'd like to see 10 instances of such a weapon being used "on Our Streets."
I'd die to hear how this makes our skies safer in reality.
Just beneath that, it shows an FN Five-Seven. Nowhere on that page is it called that. It's referred to as "Cop-killer gun" because it's capable of firing armor-piercing rounds. Including the page directed to by the "Learn more..." link (which leads to another website), it refers to the Five-Seven as "Cop-Killer Gun" 3 times, and calls it by the name Five-Seven one time. That one time just so happened to be quoting the title of another article.
Teh d00m and teh gl00m.
Yeah, guns can be used to kill people. So can fists. Let's ban fists.
Yeah, guns are involved in a good number of deaths each year. So are surgeons. Let's make laws against surgeons.
Yeah, guns are often used in violent crime. Guns are also often used to deter violent crime. If a criminal knows you have a gun, almost 100% of the time they're not interested in you. If a criminal knows you don't have a gun, you're #1 on the prospective victim list.
Yeah, a Five-Seven can penetrate body armor. Of course, it doesn't take armor-piercing bullets to kill someone wearing body armor. Why is the Five-Seven a Cop-Killer gun when a Glock or a Beretta is not? Both have been used to kill officers on-duty.
The website hypes ANYTHING gun-related or NRA-related negatively. They keep talking about "Reckless gun sellers" and guns that can "bring down airplanes" and "cop-killer guns" and the like.
Gun sellers can't be aware of what the intent of the buyer is. Anyone, therefore, that sells a gun that is later used to commit a crime could be classified as a reckless gun seller even if they were extremely careful in who they sold to. Not everyone that wants to commit a crime would have something on their record to indicate that.
Any gun can bring down an airplane if it hits hydraulics, fuel lines, fuel tanks, control lines, or a pilot. Planes are built extremely lightly, nothing that could really stop a bullet.
A .50 cal rifle can bring down a plane, yes. Easier than a pistol, but not so much easier that it's worth mentioning. To bring down a plane using small arms fire would be almost entirely luck irrelevant of what weapon was used.
The law is enforced by guns, broken by guns, and written by the consent of guns. People that would rather ban all guns are either idiots or were fed so much BS that they can taste what part of the pasture the bull was eating from.
Fact is, criminals that want guns will get them. Law-abiding citizens would be relatively defenseless against a gun-wielding attacker if the citizens were forbidden from owning a gun. The attacker knows that the victim has zero chance of having comparable firepower to their own, and the victim is forced to either submit or die. When a lot of criminals know this, crime skyrockets.
Look at Washington DC. Gun posession is illegal. Washington DC has the highest violent crime rate in America. Who can imagine why? It must be a haven for criminals. Anti-gun laws make the criminal work environment much safer. They must love it there. Nobody can resist them.
It plays out larger than this though. Such crimes, however heinous, pale in comparison to a government gone awry.
Suppose gun ownership was illegal. The only ones with guns would be the government and the criminals. The government could quickly do things that we don't want it to. The criminals could quickly do things we don't want them to. Society's values are quickly undermined and destroyed in that kind of situation. If everyone had a gun, the government would be overthrown immediately upon going directly against society, as would crime, which definitionally goes against society.
The right to bear arms is the right that assures that all other rights are protected. To remove the right to bear arms removes the ability for people to demand change against oppression, and thus makes it easy to remove all other rights. Where would America be now without guns? Oppressed under British rule with no representation, likely just another colony. When the goverment does a bad job leading, the people with guns can fight back, and revolutionize the government.
The gun represents violence to some, but freedom to me. Without guns, people fear criminals, the government, they have no way to protect themselves. In an armed society, criminals fear people, because people have guns. The government is ruled by the people, rather than the people ruled by the government. That is freedom from fear, the most important freedom, because when people don't fear, they have freedom of speech, they have freedom of expression, the freedom to pursue happiness, and reason to be careful not to step on anyone else's feet and impede their progress toward their own happiness.
posted by Keti 'Kotaree at 6:29 PM
3 Comments:
Wow...
...that website is fucking hilarious.
I'd like to see anyone on the face of this earth hit a plane at 10,000 ft. moving at 700 MPH with a sniper rifle. If we outlaw guns, then only outlaws will have guns. The whole basis of Gun Control is a paradox.
I love you Keti.
Thank you.
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